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New Law Lets Government Take Children Away If Parents Don't Accept Their Gender Identity

Saturday, June 10, 2017 - Awareness - Commentary - Canada

A Canadian province has passed a law that gives rights to the government to take away children from families that don’t accept their kid’s chosen “gender identity” or “gender expression”.

The Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act of 2017, also know as Bill 89, was passed in Ontario by a vote of 63 to 23, The Christian Times reported.

The law, which replaces old laws governing child protection, foster care and adoption services, instructs all child services and judges, to take into consideration a child’s “race, ancestry, place of origin, color, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, disability, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression.”

Minister of Child and Family Services Michael Coteau, who introduced the bill, said “I would consider that a form of abuse, when a child identifies one way and a caregiver is saying no, you need to do this differently.”

“If it’s abuse, and if it’s within the definition, a child can be removed from that environment and placed into protection where the abuse stops.”

The old law used to allow parents to “direct the child’s education and religious upbringing.” The new bill, however, amends such rights of the parents.

It now emphasizes a child’s “identity and allows parents only to “direct the child or young person’s education and upbringing, in accordance with the child’s or young person’s creed, community identity and cultural identity.”

Ontario children and youth advocate Irwin Elman celebrated the bill and said it signals a “paradigm shift” and creates a “child-centered system of service” with “the commitment to anti-racism and children’s rights.”

Jack Fonseca, a political strategist for Campaign Life Coalition, meanwhile, criticized the new law.

“With the passage of Bill 89, we’ve entered an era of totalitarian power by the state, such as never witnessed before in Canada’s history. Make no mistake, Bill 89 is a grave threat to Christians and all people of faith who have children, or who hope to grow their family through adoption.”

The child services in Ontario, Canada got into hot water back in April after it removed two foster children from a Christian couple’s home because they said no to lying to the girls that the Easter bunny is real, The Christian Post reported.

Derek Baars, one of the foster parents, said “We have a no-lying policy” after being told by a child support worker that they must tell the girls, aged 3 and 4, that the Easter bunny is real because it’s an important part of Canadian culture.

“We explained to the agency that we are not prepared to tell the children a lie. If the children asked, we would not lie to them, but we wouldn’t bring it up ourselves,” he added.


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The so-called Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act of 2017, or Bill 89, was approved by a vote of 63 to 23, according to The Christian Times.

It requires child protection, foster, adoption service providers, and judges to take into account and respect a child's "race, ancestry, place of origin, color, ethnic origin, citizenship, family diversity, disability, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression."

"I would consider that a form of abuse, when a child identifies one way and a caregiver is saying no, you need to do this differently," Minister of Child and Family Services Michael Coteau, who introduced the bill, was quoted as saying. "If it's abuse, and if it's within the definition, a child can be removed from that environment and placed into protection where the abuse stops."

The bill replaces the Child and Family Services Act, or Bill 28, which governs child protection, foster care and adoption services.

Bill 28 stated that the parent of a child in care retains the right "to direct the child's education and religious upbringing." However, the new law amends it thus: "to direct the child or young person's education and upbringing, in accordance with the child's or young person's creed, community identity and cultural identity."

Irwin Elman, Ontario's provincial advocate for children and youth, said in a statement, "I believe that this new Act, in its principles, represents a paradigm shift for the province with its commitment to the participation of children and youth in every decision that affects them, the creation of a child-centered system of service, and commitment to anti-racism and children's rights."

Jack Fonseca, senior political strategist for Campaign Life Coalition, disagrees, and was quoted as saying, "With the passage of Bill 89, we've entered an era of totalitarian power by the state, such as never witnessed before in Canada's history. Make no mistake, Bill 89 is a grave threat to Christians and all people of faith who have children, or who hope to grow their family through adoption."

In April, a Christian couple filed a lawsuit against Hamilton Children's Aid Society for removing two foster children from their home because they refused to lie to the girls by saying that the Easter bunny is real.

"We have a no-lying policy," Derek Baars, one of the foster parents, said at the time, pointing out that a child support worker insisted that he and his wife, Frances Baars, tell the two girls in their care, aged 3 and 4, the Easter bunny is real. "We explained to the agency that we are not prepared to tell the children a lie. If the children asked, we would not lie to them, but we wouldn't bring it up ourselves."

The eligibility of the Baars, members of the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America, was canceled and the children were taken away. The CAS worker, who insisted that the Baars teach the kids that the Easter bunny is genuine, told them that the Easter bunny was an important part of Canadian culture.



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Information | Gerald Rubin Voice Page created 6/10/2017 7:45:12 AM Audience: Public

New Law Lets Government Take Children Away If Parents Don't Accept Their Gender Identity

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Faith Mills Voice Re: New Law Lets Government Take Children Away If Parents Dont Accept Their Gender Identity

 Brian Alexander I have actually considered the fact you raised about LBGT kids from atheist families that have been kicked out however, the numbers of those from "Christian" families that have been kicked out is consideribly higher ... and it is NOT so much I am blaming religious groups at all but rather highlight the fact that these religious groups simply are NOT following the teachings of God & His son Jesus Christ as scripted in the Holy Bible yet cite the Holy Bible as being the reason as to why they object to this, that and everything else in the manner that they do as by doing so with a number of them they have actually taken those words contained within the passages & twisted them into their own version & interpretations!

THAT is what I have an issue with more so than anything. Having attended so many different Churches in nearly 50 years from Anglican, Methodist, United, Pentecostal, Baptist, Southern Baptist, Alliance, to name a few the one thing that ALWAYS struck me as rather odd was that they would all take the exact same passage of the Bible & their interpretation of that passage was so widely varied of which a different meaning was presented to the congregation!

I experienced being basically cast aside by one that I had attended & waas baptised in because I chose to divorce my alcoholic, physically abusive husband and chose to do so rather than risk myself or my two babies being killed by him in one of his alcholic rages ... what did I end up having to deal with as soon as the Deacons & Pastor learned I was divorcing my husband?

Sunday, after Sunday, after Sunday of the Pastor preaching & referring to passages of the Bible as to what a wife's duty is to her husband, to obey the husbands commands, to never stray from his side! YET, the Deacons & Pastor also knew that many a times I had been hospitalised due to the beatings I was dealt! I do not believe in being a hypocrit and never have ... so, when I entered into a common-law relationship I quit going to Church simply because I honestly felt it was wrong to be going to Church and then coming home & sleeping with my "husband" that I was not married to ... what did that same bunch of Deacons & Pastor do? Contacted my parents to tell them as my Christian parents it was their "duty" to deal with me and help me see that their nearly 30 year old daughter's choice of life style was wrong and that if they did not do so they would go to hell as would I! THAT kind of nonsense in my humble opinion simply is NOT Christian like at all especially given that I had already stopped going to Church!

That does not mean I do not believe in God because I do, I just have reached a point in which I do not feel I need to be attending any church as per say as a means of showing I am a Christian but rather I can show I am a Christian through how I go about living my daily life & working to help those who are suffering from homelessness, drug addictions, mental illness, what have you by offering a roof over their heads, healthy nutritional food in their stomachs, clothing to wear as well as to advocate on their behalf in dealing with the governmental bureaucrats & professionals to get them into the programs & services & support systems they need ... and I do so simply because I know if Jesus Christ were here on earth today that that is exactly what he would be doing!

Over the years I took in 18 teens off the streets, teens that were kicked out of their homes, teens that were classified as out of control, put a roof over their heads, clothed them, fed them, put them through school, paid for their sports activities,loved & cared for them along with my own 5 children because I felt that someone had to give them that second chance that no one else was willing to give them and I did so on my own with the little bit of money I earned working 3 jobs while putting myself through school so that we all could have a better life!

And if I could go back all those years I would do it all the same way all over again!

   
Brian Alexander Voice Re: Re: New Law Lets Government Take Children Away If Parents Dont Accept Their Gender Identity

Faith Mills you like to blame religious groups but there are many queer kids from atheists families kicked out...have you considered this fact.

now as a christian I can adress some of the issues at hand...for one.God is quite clear...homosexuality is generally against the law....however you're right...a true christian accepts all people...and I generally do...but not unconditionally as the queers demand...for one I understand that many queers are born that way, [yes I agree many people are born gay] however its not bc God made them that way and they are part of nature...no its bc man has contaminated the food and water [have you been tested for hormone imbalances when you were a child?] [the only time you see queer in nature its because they are under stress]

and as for conditions for accepting queers is that they can't run around naked in the streets, they can't act like idiots, demand their queerness be recognised and celebrated by the whole community, they can't walk talk and dress like a woman, they can't plaster their workplace and car with queer flags, and so on....there are pleanty of normal quite never know they were gay people, they don't put on a show for people and expect to be treated special...they just are...like the rest of us...and for what ever reason they are gay.

   
Faith Mills Voice Re: Re: New Law Lets Government Take Children Away If Parents Dont Accept Their Gender Identity

Are you aware of how many youths have been kicked out of their homes by their so called "Christian" parents when they finally gathered the courage to be open & honest with them by telling them they are LGBT??? Fact of the matter is is that God through his only Son Jesus Christ stated that as a Christian & follower of God one is to practice tolerance, acceptance & compassion of others who are not and well ... when so called "Christian parents chose to kick their child out of the family home because being LGBT is NOT of their version of the Christian belief OR better yet actually believe that forcing the child to be subjected to such as hours upon hours upon hours of being surrounded by others of the church of which they belong so that they can place their hands upon that childs head & pray the devil's influence out of their body, soul & mind as a way of "saving" them from the evil of which is surely the devil aka Satans work of being LGBT which far to many have stated they experienced & endured once they did inform their parents they were LGBT then at that point, given the numbers of homeless LGBT youth today it is TIME for the government to step in with the creating of such a law as a means to "protect" these youth and all others who very possibly would end up being exposed to the very same things as these ones that have stated & of which their very own "Christian" parents admitted to having done citing their "Christian" beliefs & morals!!! And this is written by one who has been raised in a very stron g Christian family but of whose parents actually chose to endorse the teachings of the Holy Bible New Testament of love, tolerance, acceptance & understanding every single day that my parents were alive!!!!

   

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