what most people don't know is the the hospital for sick kids works in cahoot with the Children's Aid Society and the CAS use them like how they use the schools today to illegally interrogate your kids without your consent and pile up false allegations against you. Everytime you take your kids to... access page ...

what most people don't know is the the hospital for sick kids works in cahoot with the Children's Aid Society and the CAS use them like how they use the schools today to illegally interrogate your kids without your consent and pile up false allegations against you. Everytime you take your kids to Sick Kids they are just assessing your child for being sick but for signs of abuse. They have a SCAN unit that focuses on that alone. They too need to be investigated. I wouldnt be surprise to find out the number of parents who lost their children due to false allegstions related to that SCAN Dept. I also can remember a reknown case in which someone was charged and incarcerated for allegations that one of the same sick kids forensic doctor lost his job for supporting CAS false allegations after he was investigated by a group of international reknown forensic experts who helped to release this poor man who was not guilty. Does anyone remember that case. Beware of sick kids they are in cahoots with CAS.

These lawyers are corrupted nowadys, it is very difficult to get a honest and reputable one. the lawyers work with the CAS in cahoots to steal your kids or grandkids. The justices are corrupt too, all getting checks on the side to advance the CAS agenda . your lawyer is in no way obligated to you... access page ...

These lawyers are corrupted nowadys, it is very difficult to get a honest and reputable one. the lawyers work with the CAS in cahoots to steal your kids or grandkids. The justices are corrupt too, all getting checks on the side to advance the CAS agenda . your lawyer is in no way obligated to you first , you are last in their obligations. you can usually tell when they have sold you out. They will always not want to listen to your evidence about the CAS and will always do whatever they believe is necessary in doing damage control protection for CAS.

For instance if you have evidence to prove a worker is a liar or have violated your rights in anyway. The lawyer will do everything in their power to convince you to suppress that evidence and if that doesn't work then they will present partial parts of it as if it has been accidentally done to you. Don't trust those lying maggots. They believe that getting money from CAS and you too is the high game and that they and CAS are above GOD and that they are GODS now.

Remember David slew Goliath and we need to wake up and fight against this tyrany against the cohesiveness of the families in our society for the purpose of trafficking kids and using a corrupt system to legally kidnap our kids in the false pretense of "best interest of the children".

Michelle Brauweiler you are on to something. These society psychologists write reports that are partisan and in support of the society's view point and the reports contains lies and no matter what you tell these lawyers who think they know it all even you and your CAS history. They will do everything in their power to convince you that you cannot challenge a psychological report and that there is nothing that you can do. The obvious solution is for you to get an independent assessment to counteract their lies and prove they are wrong about the diagnosis. you cannot challenge the reports in any other way.

These lawyers are corrupted nowadys, it is very difficult to get a honest and reputable one. the lawyers work with the the Children's Aid Socity in cahoots to steal your kids or grandkids. The justices are corrupt too, all getting checks on the side to advance the Children's Aid Socity agenda. yo... access page ...

These lawyers are corrupted nowadys, it is very difficult to get a honest and reputable one. the lawyers work with the the Children's Aid Socity in cahoots to steal your kids or grandkids. The justices are corrupt too, all getting checks on the side to advance the Children's Aid Socity agenda. your lawyer is in no way obligated to you first , you are last in their obligations. you can usually tell when they have sold you out. They will always not want to listen to your evidence about the the Children's Aid Socity and will always do whatever they believe is necessary in doing damage control protection for the Children's Aid Socity. For instance if you have evidence to prove a worker is a liar or have violated your rights in anyway.

The lawyer will do everything in their power to convince you to suppress that evidence and if that doesn't work then they will present partial parts of it as if it has been accidentally done to you. Don't trust those lying maggots. They believe that getting money from the Children's Aid Socity and you too is the high game and that they and the Children's Aid Socity are above GOD and that they are GODS now. Remember David slew Goliath and we need to wake up and fight against this tyrany against the cohesiveness of the families in our society for the purpose of trafficking kids and using a corrupt system to legally kidnap our kids in the false pretense of "best interest of the children"

I am a fighter but having fought against the injustices that they have done to me and my family in the past and have been successful. I know and speak of the realities not to put anyone down but to make them be realistic about the system and know that the agencies that are listed to complain to i... access page ...

I am a fighter but having fought against the injustices that they have done to me and my family in the past and have been successful. I know and speak of the realities not to put anyone down but to make them be realistic about the system and know that the agencies that are listed to complain to in seeking to get your concerns and issues with CAS resolved are useless and a farce. I can say that because I went through all those channels only to be left with frustration. I now teach others what to do to protect yourself and your family against a system that focuses on money making in all aspects above the psychological, emotional , social , and physical needs of the family.

The lawyers rather than show the facts will play games just to go to trial to get the big payday for the cost for the trial. The Justices of family court will often say when there isn't a case for CAS to keep your kids that there is only so much they can do because they can't force CAS to settle with you,and often the plan is to keep child for a long period of time then the judge will say the child has spent most of time in care and hence move forward to making the child a ward of the society and thus a ward of the government, ask yourself how is this agency a separate entity or a private corporation, they get funding too from the Ministry of children and Youth Services.

Everything is corrupt, you are gulity in family court before you are proven not guilty, your kids can be taken from your care based on false allegations it doesn't have to be factual. The courts uses the law to interpret whatever false justice they render to families and with the ambigious interpretation of what is the best interest of the children.

Anyone can interpret the best interest of the children to suit ther own agenda which is often the case. we participate in the court process which is already a fixed game and the justice won't be found there. You are at their mercy (the court and CAS). They can withdraw their application at anytime with no explanation and no apologies. The system needs to be revamped and the public needs to seek more transparency and oversight in the activities of the society and our family court system to stop the evils being done in secrecy.

I also heard a lot of people complaining and when I asked what was next or when I got a media editor to start doing investigations and asked all those who told me their stories to provide hard copies for the editor to look over they disappeared. All I can say is that if one wants to see change we have to come together and fight for that change that is needed and not willing to stand up helps the oppressors to win and continue doing all kinds of evils without fear.

There is nothing that you can do to the CAS corporation. The public doesn't care and neither does any of our Government Officials. You will soon find out that the Government funds them through the Ministry of Children and Youth Services who will try to distant themselves about the CAS practi... access page ...

There is nothing that you can do to the CAS corporation. The public doesn't care and neither does any of our Government Officials. You will soon find out that the Government funds them through the Ministry of Children and Youth Services who will try to distant themselves about the CAS practices and will tell you the CAS is a private Corporation and any complaints should be directed to Children and Family Services Review Board and if you do file a complaint there you will find out that the board is a farce and has no authority to discipline the CAS or to force them to do nothing because all the Board can do is to ensure that CAS internal complaints review panel heard your complaint . The Cas ICRP(internal Compalints Review Panel) will let you know that they have no power to discipline any of their workers regardless of any rights violations or fraudulent acts committed by them. The whole process is a farce and useless. It is set up to fool you into thinking that you have an avenue to get justice with your concerns and complaints. The whole process leaves you ultimatley very frustrated with no resolution.

The courts are even worse. The courts are corrupted and their is a bias by the courts that they accept whatever the CAS states as fact even with their false allegations. The CAS has the power of the Government. One must ask themselves if they are a private organization and not affiliated with the Government , how could they have such powers to apprehend on allegations and use police to enforce the apprehensions which are often in violation of your rights. The society's board members have implemented a plan to give them full success with getting temporary custody of your kids by fighting against you using mental health allegations and transiency.

The use of mental health, is often successful because most of the families who are fighting against such allegations are not able to pay for their own psychological evaluations and thus leaving you at the mercy of these corrupted fiends who will then select the psychiatrist to do the assessment and often the psychologist or psychiatrists who are chosen are long term consultants of the CAS and will often provide a biased assessment to the courts full of lies in favour of the society and they will never go against the ones who are paying them.

The issue of transiency is really a violation of your charter of rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms under mobility of citizens, every citizen has a right to move to take up residence in any province for whatever purpose but the CAS wants to curtail your rights to move as you please, wake up, they are taking away your rights but no one will help you because no one cares and even if you know your rights it has no value to you if you have no money to launch a suit against these evil people and even if you file yourself, they will exhaust you financially because they will drag it out for years.

The only way to defeat them is for you to keep records of everything you do for your children, plan of care meetings, visits, court records, get outside agencies to support you and your family for the extra eyes on the case if not they will bury you. The whole family court system is a farce.

There is no justice there and anything CAS tells you or signs consents to are lies and you will see it in the end, God help anyone who comes into contact with these people for any reason, even if they leave they will never let you go and they will be back in the future. They gather history and use it against you whether it is voluntary or non-voluntary history is still the same and has the same negative weight against you in court in an apprehension hearing.

It's quite clear that they have no concerns for the families but the their own agendas. the society has strayed far from their original mission and their motto statements they have on the back of their cards and their website about their missions and values. The industry now focuses on profitabil... access page ...

It's quite clear that they have no concerns for the families but the their own agendas. the society has strayed far from their original mission and their motto statements they have on the back of their cards and their website about their missions and values. The industry now focuses on profitability and funding for such profits, very shameful but is the case. They will lie and do just about anything to get custody of the children to the sad determent of their emotional and psychological needs.

Hi Alison, yes , we have the laws and can argue it but the courts are corrupted and the judges make decisions in favour of the society all the time and that's deplorable but it's what's happening in the courts and I'm very aware of it.

Apparently, the society has been delegated the po... access page ...

Hi Alison, yes , we have the laws and can argue it but the courts are corrupted and the judges make decisions in favour of the society all the time and that's deplorable but it's what's happening in the courts and I'm very aware of it.

Apparently, the society has been delegated the powers equivalent to the state or our government although they state that they are a private organization, believe it or not, it's fact. The judges are obligated to the government and thus have a impartial viewpoint that accepts all the society alleges against you even if false.

The lawyer assigned to you are obligated to the government first, the courts second,and you last. I have experienced all of this and i speak based on my knowledge and experience.

The society in all circumstances will object to a kin becoming a party to the proceedings because they will want to try to suppress as much evidence as possible and argue that adding kin to be a party to the proceedings will cause the case trial portion to drag on and they will convince the judge in their argument that the respondent can put in the kin's plan in their submission to the courts without adding them to the proceedings and believe me, the judges will agree, God help us all, the courts are corrupt.

There is no avenue there in family court for justice. the child protection industry is worse than the criminals who are doing child trafficking because they are getting away with it and using the courts to make it totally legal.

Yes this is true but the adjournment may be necessary by his lawyer to be able to respond to the volume of the disclosure that the society will serve him or her on the date of court hearing for the application for temp custody for the infant . The society always chooses to serve materials of larg... access page ...

Yes this is true but the adjournment may be necessary by his lawyer to be able to respond to the volume of the disclosure that the society will serve him or her on the date of court hearing for the application for temp custody for the infant . The society always chooses to serve materials of large volume filled with allegations on the date of the hearing not giving the respondent enough time to respond and thereby trying to get the edge on their application to get temp care and custody of the baby. This is fact and although you can argue that you had not been given enough time to respond to the allegations, the society will always object to the judge giving you time to do so because it serves your interest not their's. The parents will just have to be ready to argue and request immediate return of their child toan immediate family member because based on the information that exists it would not be approved for the parents right now since the girlfriend has an outstanding warrant and they both have breaches that the society is aware of and will definitely use against them.

All of these process are there just to soothe us.it's not effective and the process is lengthy and often they side with the society even with tremendous amount of evidence

He has to get a lawyer right away and get the lawyer to be ready to seek the immediate return of his infant to himself or a family member and he needs to have a lawyer that will argue it on the date of court which should be within 5 days of having the child apprehended. They will argue to keep th... access page ...

He has to get a lawyer right away and get the lawyer to be ready to seek the immediate return of his infant to himself or a family member and he needs to have a lawyer that will argue it on the date of court which should be within 5 days of having the child apprehended. They will argue to keep the infant from the mother and father because of the outstanding warrant for his girlfriend and the breaches that occurred between them because of their history of domestic violence. The only best option is to provide a family member with no involvement with CAS and no criminal history to state that they are ready and able to care for the infant and to have pictures given to lawyer showing that have bought a crib, diapers, clothing,etc in preparation for the infant and that they have ample space in their home. The lawyer has to be ready to argue the return of the infant or ask for adjournment within a week to return to argue. The society will argue that they need to do kinship assessment that will take time trying to buy time to get temp care custody and then it will be harder to get child from them.


sorry, i forgot to mention for him to get the worker to do an home assessment of the family member's home preferably before the court date because the judge will want to know if home has space and crib for baby and that the society has no concerns about the home.

I was going over some documents that are related to the CAS proceedings against families and I'm beginning to see a repetitive pattern in there arguments used against families in the court. I want to share this with families so they can become aware of their tactics and begin to arm themselves ag... access page ...

I was going over some documents that are related to the CAS proceedings against families and I'm beginning to see a repetitive pattern in there arguments used against families in the court. I want to share this with families so they can become aware of their tactics and begin to arm themselves against these monsters who take newborns from their families,remove kids on potential risks not actual risks.

Here are the lists of arguments that I found to be common practice used to target and take away kids from their families:

1. Poor judgment

Hey just an update on the whole recording scenario with the CAS worker. It was not thrown out but the judge did not listen to the actual recording but agreed to give the recording transcript some weight in his decision. The mother was given the return of her baby immediately with a temporary care... access page ...

Hey just an update on the whole recording scenario with the CAS worker. It was not thrown out but the judge did not listen to the actual recording but agreed to give the recording transcript some weight in his decision. The mother was given the return of her baby immediately with a temporary care supervision order because the society failed to prove their concerns and the onus was theirs to prove. they were are cautioned about their credability. The lawyer did a great job.So one party consent is admissible.


sorry for my typing error, I actually meant one party consent is admissible. it was admitted , however the judge chose not to listen to the recording, very sorry for my typing error, i hope this encourages everyone to record to protect themselves from the CAS when they choose to do wrong and hide the truth and falsely discredit you.


recordings may as per one party consent are admissible. this particular judge on this particular occasion exercised his/her judicial discretion and choose not to allow the audio recording to be played.

another judge or even this same judge on another day may have exercised judicial discretion differently and allowed it.

please Marcia, don't present this as recordings made as per the CCC section 183.1 "one party consent" law aren't admissible in court. that is not correct. doing so may discourage others from making those very important recordings.

happy to hear the baby is going home to family. more than likely the judge ordered this both based on the "best interests" facts and hoping that by doing so the lawyer wouldn't appeal the judge's decision to not allow the recording to be entered in as evidence.


some judges are not listening to them. So it is best to get key short parts and transcripts of them.


Vernon Beck Recordings should be used in court ONLY as backup to actual transcripts of the recordings. Make transcripts and submit them into the court record and make reference that you have the recording to give to the court if the court chooses to do so. In all cases written transcripts must be prepared before going to court.


Chris Carter: actual recordings convey important elements of the interaction such as inflection, intonation, loudness of voices, etc...which the transcript doesn't.

also if the court insists that the recording be transcribed by a licenced or registered or officially recognized transcriber, many of us can't afford to have recordings transcribed.

perhaps judicial discretion allows for them to prevent recordings from being played into the record while they can't prevent transcripts...? such distinction is probably buried deep in the common and/or statutory laws? so that might be an advantage to transcripts.



Chris Carter: entering recordings into a proceeding esp. at the point it goes to trial is a guaranteed right as per the legal doctrine of "full answer and defence." people can learn about these "doctrines" and "presumptions" and "rules" and "practises" and so much more only by reading legal dictionaries.

many public libraries have legal dictionaries which can be signed out, taken home and read in the comfort of your home lying down on the sofa with the hockey game on tv for background noise as at least one CWer is in the habit of doing. lol.